Another witness came forward to tell the team that Ronnie Harries had worked on a farm in Penllergaer, evidence that was supported from a newspaper cutting at the time. taken from one of Jones many nieces or nephews in Wales would prove conclusively if Jones was or was not Muriels killer. He can't understand why people would think he killed them. They had been regular churchgoers, but stopped going to church and moved away from the farm within two years of the murder. ", "Groundbreaking DNA test rules out childkiller in unsolved murder", 74 years ago, Muriel Drinkwater was murdered. I appealed that decision and was then informed that as the information I requested was kept in paper format in various locations in South Wales then it would be too costly and time-consuming to check out so the request was denied. SOUTH Wales Police's Specialist Crime Review Unit has been investigating the murder of 12 year-old Muriel Drinkwater whose body was found in Penllergaer Woods, Swansea in 1946. Talk about a case hitting close to home for you! "Each case is reviewed periodically," he adds. 'I have spoken to Muriel's family and bring them up to date with the latest details of this investigation. The Photo Request has been fulfilled. Casey DeSantis says Ron looked like Tom Cruise in his white Navy uniform when then got married at Disney: Florida's First Family says venue was an 'ironic' choice, Ron DeSantis claims former Disney CEO Bob Chapek privately complained to him about the 'pressure' he was under from woke Left to wade in on Florida's 'Don't say gay' bill. Would you be able to tell me please if Harries has been cleared of Muriels murder as well. Her mother seen her approaching 400 yards away, so perhaps she was a selected victim. 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Some companies will provide you with upto 6 generations. Thomas was born on July 22 1880, in South Thomaston Knox Maine. This true crime happened in Penllegaer Woods on the outskirts of Swansea in 1946. Play it now! Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. Neil. Interesting case Christine. ~ Christine. [8], Last edited on 11 February 2023, at 09:11, List of unsolved murders in the United Kingdom, "Marwolaeth merch yn parhau'n ddirgelwch", "The Muriel Drinkwater case: can they crack the coldest murder case? 0, Hi Tracey Thanks for reading and for sharing your thoughts on Muriels case. But in 2003, when the case was reopened for review, forensics experts had a major breakthrough when they found a semen stain on Muriel's coat. Will do Christine. Police confirmed a cold case review on the stain found on Muriel's coat in 1946 had now been tested by forensics teams. I could never hurt anyone or anything, but in a small, close-knit community, people talk and I knew that in the eyes of some people I was the murderer. Forensic scientist Dr Colin Dark said that the stain had been found on the lower flap of Muriel's coat. The gym is tucked away in an unsuspecting industrial estate in the Swansea Valley and is run by a world-champion strongman who wants as many people as possible to feel included in his beloved sport. <p>The school bus dropped Muriel Drinkwater at her usual stop, leaving her to walk the last part of her journey home to the family farm in Penllergaer, West Wales. But Muriel, who was known locally as 'The Little Nightingale' because of her beautiful singing voice, never made it home. It was also tested against the DNA of one Harold Jones, a convicted double child murderer who slayed two similarly young girls in Abertillery in the 1920s, to see if he might be the perpetrator. There were whispers that it was her stepfather that did it, although I believe John Drinkwater was her blood father. Perhaps one day then there'll still be justice for Muriel Drinkwater - even if it might have to stretch beyond the grave. Evernote. Holly Ann Campiglia was a Jane Doe until she was identified in 1992. However, the BBC documentary Darklands shown in November 2020 identified Ronald Harries who murdered his aunt and uncle as Muriels killer, and a cousin of Harries was shown in the documentary and was expected to give DNA to prove or disprove the theory.. In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. [12][13], For more than a decade, Welsh true crime author Neil Milkins theorised that notorious child murderer Harold Jones (19061971) was responsible for the murders of both Martin and Drinkwater. Its her birthday tomorrow, and still no closer to finding her killer. Her killer has never been caught and it remains among the most notorious unsolved murders in Welsh history you can read more of them here. Two months too young to face the gallows, he was sent to Usk Prison where he sensationally confessed to the first killing, blaming the voice of a 'demon' in his head. Muriel Drinkwater was born on January 12, 1906 in New York . Also that they likely watched Muriel and knew her route. "She lost sight of her for a few moments. She was was found murdered in 1980 in a field in Dixon, CA. Medicaid to cut 14 MILLION Americans from health coverage as states crack down on eligibility for the first time in three years after numbers soared during COVID - so are you at risk? On 30 March 2010 the Times Online quoted an unnamed police source with South Wales Police as saying: We have a real problem with amateur sleuths in this area. They also announced in May 2019 that Abertillery double child killer Harold Jones had also been cleared of Muriels murder. taken from Jones exhumed body can the police honestly say catergorically that Jones was or was not Muriels killer. On July 7, 1946, eleven-year-old Sheila Martin was raped and strangled in woods near her home in Dartford. This seems like a dubious connection because there is roughly 230 miles (370 kilometres) between Dartford and Penllergaer,but on the day of Sheilas murder a large race meeting was held at Brands Hatch with over 9,000 attendees, one of whom could have been both Muriel and Shielas killer. Thank you for the update. Video, 00:01:00One-minute World News, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech. The new B.B.C. DNA was found on evidence & matched a man already in prison. Brutally beaten, raped and shot twice, the discovery of Swansea schoolgirl Muriel Drinkwater 's body in 1946 horrified an entire community. It was believed the victim's clothes had been lost. Her eyes were wide open and her skin was deathly white. The Welsh policehave also examined connections between Muriels case and a second murder that occurred a mere ten days after she was killed. Jones killed two young girls when he was just 15 and was jailed for 20 years. Thanks for reading and for taking the time to share your thoughts. Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was singing as she walked along the mile-long path to her home after getting off a school bus. Detective Chief Inspector Mark Lewis, head of the South Wales Polices Specialist Crime Review Unit announced to the press in May 2019: The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. Hi Nicola. Born in the summer of 1933, she was the youngest of four children and lived with her parents Percy and Margaret on a small farm called Tyle-Du, near [15] There is evidence that Harries was employed by Drinkwater's father, John, at the time of her death. Great questions! But they said the results now ruled out Jones as a suspect in her murder. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater ,[2] also known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. I have informed South Wales Police regarding this information to save them a fortune on a wild goose chase trying to extract D.N.A. Farm Heroes Saga, the #4 Game on iTunes. Although he was first registered at Widdows Fulham address at Hestercombe Avenue in 1947 as Harold Jones, the following years and up until 1962 he was registered as Harry Stevens. South Wales Police detectives requested the original case file from Kent Police to determine if there was a connection. Hi Neil. Video, 00:00:42Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble, Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race. Her name was written in copper plate, Muriel J Drinkwater, and they were examined by the forensic expert who did some incredible work for us, and was able to find this full crime stain on the back of Muriel's little school mac. Why on earth would the police continue to stonewall after all these decades? Video, 00:02:36Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? Trump rages at Mark Zuckerberg amid claims group linked to Facebook boss gave $2 million to Georgia elections board - and says Dems are 'trying to steal a SECOND election'. In the programme, former Dyfed Powys chief constable Jackie Roberts travelled to met him and he told her how his grandparents (Muriel's parents) had changed after the murder. will do what you suggest. I have a special interest in this case as I too was brought up in Penllergaer. The last person who reported seeing her was Hubert Hoyles, then 13, who passed her on the path returning from her family farm, where he had gone to buy eggs. Muriel Drinkwater murder: Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? Murder. 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Video, 00:01:18, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech. From the statements of the day it appeared her mum was making a pot of tea and looked out the window and actually saw Muriel about 500 yards away coming up the track towards the farmhouse. Colin Dark suggested the possibillity of using D.N.A to identify who took the books into the shop with the hope of identifying the killer. It is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. Muriel Drinkwater was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea, Serial killer Harold Jones (pictured as a 15-year-old) killed two young girls when he was just 15 and was jailed for 20 years. Police believe 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater might have been a victim of a notorious serial killer when she was raped and murdered in 1946. Muriel, who lived on Tyle-Du farm at Penllergaer, near Swansea, went missing on Thursday, June 27th, 1946, and her body was found next day in Penllergaer woods. Yet, despite their exhaustive enquiries - not to mention the discovery of the gun used in Muriel's shooting - the culprit managed to evade justice. Click here to hear the Audio File of this case. [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample . Some people turn to the murder weapon for answers and suggest that the killer was either an American serviceman who had previously been stationed at Penllergaer or that an American soldier may have sold the gun to the perpetrator in the village. "All historic murder cases, or 'cold cases', are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. Muriels niece Margaret is desperate to get the books back. As manager of this memorial you can add or update the memorial using the Edit button below. Dear Sir/Madam. Swansea 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater, who was shot after being sexually assaulted in 1946, Officers searching the farmland in the days after the murder, Muriel's schoolmates with flowers for her grave, A picture of the gun police believe was used, Harold Jones, a convicted child killer who was also a suspect in Muriel's killing, Ronnie Harries, the last man to be sentenced to death in Carmarthen, The book that was found in a charity shop. The Crime Review Group already have the information that I request. [16][17], In 2010, the Lord Chancellor's Advisory Council on National Records and Archives closed off public access to the case, acting at the behest of Scotland Yard. Hoyles told police that the man looked terribly stern and had a local accent. Although this person of interest could have just been out for hike or involved in some other unrelated nefarious activity, the authorities believe that he may have been in involved in Muriels murder. The hardest part then was actually finding the materials," he told the documentary. This will conclude a 10 year wait to see if Jones was indeed Muriels killer. Video, 00:00:41Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. [8][4] Policemen from Glamorgan, assisted by the 169th Bomb Disposal Unit, used a metal detector to search for a second weapon suspected to have been used, but never located it. 'Each case is reviewed periodically. The Photo Request has been fulfilled. Martin well remembers a young girl who was "always full of life" and would always be skipping and singing. 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Just before his execution, Harries gave an extraordinary interview to the tabloid press from his jail cell. As you know it is not possible to prove whether Harold Jones was Muriels killer by D.N.A testing Jones daughter. Two days later, police found one of the murder weapons, a World War I-era Colt .45 pistol. Margaret went out into the yard and her and Muriel exchanged waves. Murder of 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater in 1946 is being probed 73 years later Police thought a stain on Muriel's coat would link death to Harold Jones But they have now confirmed a test. Photo added by Tracey. But he was later released and served in World War II before his military career ended in 1946. Joseph James DeAngelo, the suspected Golden State Killer, The real waking the dead: This schoolgirls savage murder has mystified police for 62 years. I am not a DNA scientist so sadly I cannot answer this question for you. https://www.abc10.com/amp/article/news/crime/prison-inmate-accused-42-year-old-homicide-in-dixon-area/103-535ec3ad-2aa1-4d10-94a7-aafe4f6081ff, We are thrilled to announce that remains discovered in 2017 in Sanford, Maine at a building site have been identified. "[4] Police also circulated photos of the United States Army-issued gun; notably, perspex had been used to modernise the original wooden stocks next to the grip. [10], Police visited every house within 150 square miles and interviewed 20,000 men in Swansea and in neighbouring Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. "We realise whoever did this might be dead, but if he is alive and in his 80s or even 90s we would like to see him behind bars," said Muriel's great-niece Claire Phillips, speaking about developments last October. She had been attacked on the lane and then she was dragged to where the body was left.". Yet, despite their exhaustive enquiries - not to mention the discovery of the gun used in Muriel's shooting - the culprit managed to evade justice. Nevertheless, the FBI was called in to assist with determining the ownership of the murder weapon, but nothing seems to have ever transpired from this lead. ', Glamorgan Police and men of the 169th Bomb Disposal Unit make a break for a meal during their search for evidence after her murder on June 27, 1946, Jones, originally of Abertillery, South Wales, is a suspect in the killings of six women in London in the 1960s. Jones was ruled out at the beginning of May, 2019. As part of the investigation forensic evidence has been re-examined and officers have considered theories that convicted murderer Harold Jones was . "If information comes in from the public or other forces we act on it.". On 28 June 2021, I sent the following Freedom of Information Request to South Wales Police. Her body was eventually found in a nearby lane, but it was the discovery of her handkerchief in the shops shed which saw Jones accused and stand trial for her death. Muriel Drinkwater - Swansea, 1946 On 27th June 1946, Margaret Drinkwater was making tea in the family farm house in Penllegaer near Swansea when she looked out of the window to see her daughter . "[14][5], In 2020, the BBC One documentary Dark Land: Hunting the Killers suggested that Ronnie Harries could be the murderer. (My belief now is that the suspect he referred to was Hubert Hoyles who as a 13 year-old boy had come into contact with Muriels family shortly before her murder. Would a nephew definitely suffice to prove a link to Harol Jones and the crime scene stain on Muriels coat. The True Crime Files I was able to edit the comment for you before it went live. Who sodomises a 12 year old girl and batters her about the head, then shoots her twice in the chest? Thought to be one of the oldest pieces of crime scene evidence in the world, it was initially used to rule from suspicion someone who had been spotted close to the woods on the afternoon Muriel was attacked. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. Video, 00:01:00, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble. Her blue coat, underwear and school uniform had been wrapped in a paper bag and stored. And please do not forget tosubscribe to the podcast and leave us a review. Jones D.N.A was not compared to the D.N.A left on Muriels coat by the killer. Police and soldiers search the area for clues of Muriel's murder, A picture of Muriel's schoolmates with flowers for her grave, Freda Burnell (left) and Florence Little (right) - Jones' first victims, At 35-years-old Jones is released from prison, only to vanish. Sometime later that afternoon, Muriels mother Margaret glanced out of her kitchen window and noticed Muriel approaching their property from approximately 400 yards away. She goes to grammar school. Video, 00:01:28, The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. The perpetrator left cigarette stubs, sweet wrappers, and pieces of bread at the scene of the crime, which the authorities have said indicates that he was waiting in the dense woods for his chance to strike. Muriel was seen at 2:30PM, singing as she exited the school bus. It doesnt take much working out who the unnamed source with South Wales Police was! However, if it wasnt for Victor Penaluna and D.C. Paul Rogers of the London Metropolitan Police I would have been none the wiser about the Muriel Drinkwater murder. It was the first time he had spoken publicly about the tragedy that haunts his family to this day. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. There is no doubt about that.". Request number 772/21. 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What a big moment in this case! Due to advances in forensic technology, we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule out Harold Jones completely as a suspect in this case.. Why? She was pulled from that path into the woodland beside it, attacked and murdered amongst the undergrowth of Penllergaer Woods, near Swansea, just yards from safety. The gun was described as aColt 45 American army issue automatic pistol, first issued for World War I but probably also used in World War II, which significantly had the original wooden stocks next to the grip modernised with perspex.. Learn more about managing a memorial . The police have DNA but keep any results they may have a closely guarded secret. D.C, Paul Rogers, independent of Victor Penalunas theory, contacted me by phone and told me that his research had led him to believe that Harold Jones may have been Muriel Drinkwaters killer. In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect . I personally think whoever did it was a true psychopath and he would probably of done something like it before and has done other crimes since. Muriel was seen at 2:30PM, singing as she exited the school bus. A team of crime experts have re-investigated the brutal killing 74 years ago and uncovered what they believe to be firm new leads in the search for who killed her, Get the latest court and crime news from WalesOnline. Muriel Drinkwater was a young Welsh schoolgirl. In the days and weeks that followed, police officers visited every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles, along with interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. This was a very small, close knit community and everybody knew everybody and everybodies business. 74 years ago, Muriel Drinkwater was murdered. On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). Wales documentary screened at 10.30pm on Sunday 8 November 2020 spent a full 5 minutes suggesting that 2 books found in a Carmarthen bookshop recently had been taken from Muriels schoolbag in 1946 as trophies by the killer. They never recovered. There was a camp a mile away in Grovesend. It is currently one of the oldest active cold cases in the UK. Muriel was skipping through the woods on the afternoon of June 27, 1946, as she did every day on her way from school, when the summer's afternoon turned to tragedy. Advertisement. Something went wrong, please try again later. "We had access to the files and identified that a semen stain had been found on the coat. It was supposed to have been abandoned in 1944 but I know there were GIs who married Swansea girls still around in 1946. Psychic Diane Lazarus. Muriels nieces family took the books to the bookshop after Muriels brother-in-law died last year. 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