Theres so much richness in his language, its almost the opposite of journalistic writing. The whole reputation of the paper was hanging on that by the time. I didnt start reading seriously until probably junior high school. Ben Bradlee: The Pentagon Papers was a study commissioned by Nixon in the first or second year of his first term, 1970 or 69. The processes that caused [Nixons] resignation were constitutional., Grahams words, however accurate and incisive, scarcely altered the dominant popular interpretation of Watergate. Woodward immediately published a full account of his dealings with Felt in his book, The Secret Man. He wanted to use the presidency as an instrument of personal revenge, to settle scores, too often, and thats not what the presidency is about. Ben Bradlee: By an overwhelming margin, as we were reminded so often. Mr. Woodward, tell us what it felt like to you personally when Nixon stepped down. I was asleep in my bedroom in a suburb of New York, a 13-year-old boy, still trying to make sense of this strange world I'd been born into, where police in blue helmets fought young people in the street, and great men were gunned down in their prime. He joined the Washington Post's metropolitan staff in 1971. Listen to the music that blared in static-y mono glory from 77, WABC, on the beach those Watergate summers, from Lynyrd Skynyrd ("Now Watergate does not bother me") to David Bowie ("Do you remember your President Nixon?"). what was the advice to woodward and bernstein what was the advice to woodward and bernstein (No Ratings Yet) . So you had a certain amount of independence? I think pride is hubris. All the Presidents Men was published in June 1974 and quickly reached the top of The New York Times bestseller list, remaining there 15 weeks, through Nixons resignation and beyond. So we tried to just keep people out of the building. display: block; Muskie, in the emotion of the campaign, was trying to explain what had gone on. Were there other writers in your father or mothers family? WASHINGTON Watching Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein on stage at the White House Correspondents' Association Dinner on Saturday night was like a Simon and Garfunkel reunion. It took some of us from the Watergate generation a long time to see it. Yes. Bob Woodward: Sure. Kenneth Starr has served as a judge on the court of appeals, as U.S. solicitor general, and came to nat, Richard M. Nixon From the time of the break-in, and through the fall and winter of 1972-1973, Bernstein and Woodward, under increasing public attack from White House spokesmen, worked virtually alone on the story. You may occasionally receive promotional content from the Los Angeles Times. Before this, the three men went to great lengths to hide Felt's identity. ", To read excerpts, click here. He also felt compelled, as a reporter, to point out that Bernstein's remarks were . He was rebellious, which led to him failing out of college. It was also the fact that they were so different, and that they were lowly metro reporters. Are there particular novels of his that you remember liking? Five burglars had been caught red-handed in the complex, where the Democratic National Committee had its headquarters; four of them turned out to be ex-CIA agents who did security work for the Republicans. Bob Woodward: Sure. Woodward gained valuable information through an unnamed informant, nicknamed Deep Throat, by Post managing editor Howard Simon. Raised in a traditional Republican household, Woodward was very well-educated and has been described as gentle. Part of HuffPost Media. Pakula gradually realized that neither Woodward nor Bernstein could have pulled off Watergate alone. He joined broadcast news in a high growth period. And so the other day they wrote a lengthy piece -- their first joint byline in 36 years -- trying to correct all the myths about Watergate that have risen in the years since. Like an assistant secretary of defense who had been a year or two before head of a big Republican contributor and head of an automobile company and, you know, sold cars in Omaha or somewhere. That was the key. Just it was terribly, critically important that we do it right and that we not brag, not seem to be bragging, and that we didnt allow any television in there for days. Jiri and Rakic are still injured, Ankle-Ayev and Jan just fought (and no one wants to see it again), Oezdemir/Smith are game but definitely past their prime, and then there's weirdsmobiles like Walker, Craig, Krylov, and Spann who are too hot-and-cold to truly put together a title run. Robert Upshur Woodward, born on March 26, 1943, in Geneva, Illinois, attended Yale University on a Naval Reserve Officers Training Corps (ROTC) scholarship, after which he served for five years as a naval officer. [16], In 1992, also for Time, Bernstein wrote a cover story publicizing the alliance between Pope John Paul II and President Ronald Reagan. Bob Woodward: Its the nature of the business. Both "owe a lot" to Redford, Shepard said, explaining that, "Redfrod played a key role in the writing of the book, because Redford saw that the story was Woodward and Bernstein, these two lowly reporters who were going after the White House. Woodward would only reveal his informant was an individual working in the Executive Branch. The first report featuring the now legendary journalists came on June 19, 1972, two days after the break-ins and arrest of the conspirators (via Constitution Center). The Watergate scandal began in May 1972, when members of PresidentRichard M. Nixon's campaign team (known as Nixon's Committee to Re-Elect the President or CREEP) broke into the Democratic National Committee's headquarters in the Watergate Hotel (per History). We shouldnt do that. That doesnt mean there wont be more scandals and maybe even larger scandals, but in a sense, the vision or the dream of the people who wrote the Constitution has, at least in part, been realized. Published in the late spring of 1974, All the President's Men was an immediate best seller. The movie made Woodward and Bernstein forever famous and has become a classic. Woodward and Bernstein did disclose financial links between Nixons reelection campaign and the burglars arrested June 17, 1972, at headquarters of the Democratic National Committee, in what was the signal crime of Watergate. There was even a movie made about the scandal and their role in it, "All The President's Men.". [23], Bernstein is a frequent guest and analyst on television news programs, and in 2011 wrote articles for Newsweek/The Daily Beast, comparing Rupert Murdoch's News of the World phone-hacking scandal to Watergate. Woodward noted how Bernstein had taught him about the importance of being very aggressive, and recalled how Bernstein had clambered aboard a full cab with the Watergate burglars lawyers to get information and borrowed $20 from Woodward, which he did not return. Whats not known? The dichotomy intrigued Pakula. Ben Bradlee: It is an interesting thing. On the evening of June 16, 1972, a security guard at the Watergate Hotel in Washington, D.C., discovered a piece of tape on the lock of the door that, Jaworski, Leon }, First published on December 26, 2006 / 7:23 AM. While Bernstein was surprised by how mythical Deep Throat became in American pop culture, he remains as much of a part of the Watergate story as Woodward and Bernstein. And my father said probably the severest thing he has ever said to me. WASHINGTON Watching Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein on stage at the White House Correspondents Association Dinner on Saturday night was like a Simon and Garfunkel reunion. But it would have been I mean, there was a lot of money on the table. What does it mean? (They later discovered that Sloan meant to communicate to them that Haldeman was guilty, but that Sloan had not said so to the grand jury because he had not been asked.) They show how Pakula came to view his protagonists. But glaring gaps remain. Kind of parse it out. But she wasnt the editor. So you would not go from the CIA to the White House instantly, but within several days, through the work of another reporter, we learned there was this cryptic entry in the address books of two of the five burglars that very simply said H. This. Later, along with Vatican expert Marco Politi, he published a papal biography entitled His Holiness. I like what I do. He was assigned to the police beat, from 7:00 in the evening to 3:00 in the morning, but he did not limit his work activities to his assigned hours. Were you in intelligence? A community high school history teacher named Elizabeth Duncan who taught American history and was a great teacher. What in my business Ive found is that we basically do have a free press, that we can operate independently. Mr. Hes finally embarrassed, said Woodward with a smile. Mr. President, the media is not fake news. Maybe we have a story and maybe we dont.. Maybe it was appropriate that most of America slept through the occasion. So much has happened since then. Writers or journalists who inspired you? Our lawyers were telling us that and this New York judge had ruled that the statute says whoever has reason to believe that publication of certain information will threaten the national security of the United States shall be this was a civil suit, but the criminal equivalent, which they would certainly have done had they convicted us, would have put us in jail, put us all in jail, including Katharine Graham, or the possibility of it. In 2005, the mystery surrounding the identity of Watergate informant Deep Throat was ended. HARRY S. TRUMAN of Independence, Missouri, once remarked that three experiences prepared a man for, Woodward, Bob 1943- (Robert Upshur Woodward), Woodward, Daniel 1931-2007 (D.H. Woodward, Daniel H. Woodward, Daniel Holt Woodward), https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/woodward-and-bernstein. In 1992, Bernstein wrote a cover story for The New Republic magazine indicting modern journalism for its sensationalism and celebration of gossip over real news. Bob Woodward: Yes. When expanded it provides a list of search options that will switch the search inputs to match the current selection. He was not lazy, she insisted. I may have been an extreme case, but not a unique one. Much of their hard work was a quest for access to anyone who knew the real secrets of the Nixon White House. [18], Bernstein left the Post in 1977 and expanded into other areas due to his reputation from the Watergate reporting. Ehrlichman? Was he the more experienced journalist at the time? police in blue helmets fought young people in the street, great men were gunned down in their prime. Mr. Woodward, in your bookShadowyou talk about how Nixons presidency affected the presidents whove come since. Ukraine's neighbor Moldova, host to thousands of Ukrainian refugees, is monitoring the conflict closely while . You had a lot of Cuban or Spanish-speaking guys in masks and rubber gloves, with walkie-talkies, arrested in the Democratic National Committee Headquarters at 2:00 in the morning. More than 40 years after they became the world's most famous journalism duo, Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein are still making news.Bernstein was among three CNN reporters who last week broke the story of former Donald Trump lawyer Michael Cohen's allegation that Trump knew in advance of the June 2016 meeting between representatives of his It came out in the Ervin Committee hearings in the Senate. So we did, and there was no threat to the national security, and information, truth, is not a threat to security, and we believed that. Eighteen years after the Supreme Court ruled that they couldnt shut us down, the prosecuting attorney, who was the Solicitor General of the United States, wrote the Post a letter saying that in the whole Pentagon Papers, there was no threat to national security. After the Times had been estopped by a judge, we decided to publish them. Make no mistake (as Nixon himself was fond of saying), what Woodward and Bernstein accomplished from 1972 to 1974 was incredible and deserving of all the accolades they received at the time. Youve said journalism should be called a practice, like law. JAWORSKI, LEON You want to spend time on it. Most online reference entries and articles do not have page numbers. Harry S. Truman There was the whole intelligence-gathering apparatus. By entering your email and clicking Sign Up, you're agreeing to let us send you customized marketing messages about us and our advertising partners. Had he been Deep Throat, he once told a Connecticut newspaper, I would have done better. They were not hard to support, these young reporters, because they were right. Do you think being the oldest had an influence on your life? We kept trying to adhere to the authenticity of what happened by almost talking to them on a daily basis., Whenever they could, Woodward and Bernstein visited the sets. They have always backed what I do. Were you the only child? When Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein published their groundbreaking Watergate reporting that led to the resignation of former President Richard Nixon in 1974, the duo thought he would be the. I can't tell you how many times back then that Americans -- looking for a silver lining in the cloud of Watergate -- uttered this phrase: "The system worked." So you had the White House. Bob Woodward: I was born in a hospital in Geneva, Illinois but lived in Wheaton, which is the home of Billy Graham, the evangelist, so it was very fundamentalist Christian. Overnight, Woodward and Bernstein became household names. Bernstein was portrayed by Dustin Hoffman in the film version of All the President's Men[28] and by Bruce McCulloch in the 1999 comedy film Dick. A year later, he was back at the Post, and at age 29 found himself in the middle of one of the biggest stories of the century. What were some of the mistakes? Whats secret? Every time the White House denied something, the evidence became clear that it was the White House that was lying. Bob Woodward: Well, we looked at it differently. Tell us a little bit about what actually happened. To a certain extent, I was able to go my own way. Most of us had quite fancy security clearances in that capacity. Woodward's strength was in investigation, so he focused on investigating the Watergate scandal. What did you do in the Navy? From the age of 13 to 15, I embraced the scandal with all the geek force that puberty could muster. Karlie Kloss and Taylor Swift still good friends - 8 Days - 8Days.sg. You are also agreeing to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. Landed at The Washington Post in 1971, had nine months reporting experience. He'd started at age two, I think. The judge said, What do you do? and Woodward overheard the words CIA. So if your interest isnt whetted by this time, youre not a journalist. Nixon resigned from the presidency on August 9, 1974, after tape recordings that he had ordered made, and then tried to conceal from and deny to investigators, were made public. But then two by-the-book (sort of) dudes with wide ties and spiral notebooks -- Woodward and Bernstein -- came along in stoppage time to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. Certainly during Watergate, it didnt get transmitted to Carl Bernstein or myself through them. . ", Fame, Shepard observed, "played a huge role in changing their lives forever. What I try to do is piece together how people make decisions. Bernstein and Woodward stayed on the story, though the government agencies they had helped to prod into activity now began to resent their continuing revelations. Woodward was able to soldier on and write 14 books. Robert Dole, and Doles successor as the chairman of the Republican Party, George Bush the first. Do you see President Clintons impeachment related to Watergate? It looked like I was going to become a lawyer, and my father to a certain extent was my model. If you need to flag this entry as abusive. The reporters were all there, and the editors were there, working on the copy, and there was some guy writing for the next morning. Felt brazenly denied having been Woodwards source. Woodward has written best-selling books on the last ten presidentsNixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, George H.W. Contributors control their own work and posted freely to our site. The book inescapably promoted the impression Woodward and Bernstein were vital to Watergates outcome. We said Haldeman had controlled the secret fund, according to the Grand Jury testimony of the Nixon Committee treasurer, and he had not testified to that. Are you and Bernstein still friends? At the end of his military service, Woodward applied to Harvard Law School, and was accepted for the fall 1970 term, but he chose to pursue a career in journalism instead. Woodward moved logically. Famously portrayed by Dustin Hoffman (Bernstein) and Robert Redford (Woodward) in the 1976 movie classic All the Presidents Men, the pair are far from best buddies and though they did not sit together on the dais, it appears some ice has thawed. You dont think of journalists automatically as patriots, one. Within a year, his byline was appearing on the front page. 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