The 7mm PRC is similar to a 7mm Rem Mag, but it can shoot heavier bullets with higher BCs, has no belt which causes problems for reloaders, and slightly less case capacity so longer barrels are not necessary. However, its pointless to attempt such shots if you dont optimize 7mm Rem Mags point blank range during sighting-in. Hornady has made the perfect 7mm case. 375" drop w/ 100 yard zero. Shooters will gravitate toward heavy-for-caliber high-BC bullets in the 7mm PRC. You can find an email form and contact information here. I find your data a bit too limited, which can vary greatly depending on multiple other factors. It was an exciting huntwe would spot goats from the valley floor, and climb 3000-4000 feet every day to hunt them. I have a Ridgeline now. 7 PRC is designed for shorter barrels. In this post, well look in-depth into that question. It produces 1,500 ft-lbs of energy for elk-sized game out to 510 yards, and 1,000 ft-lbs for deer-sized game to 810 yards. Heres a link to it. Steve, Jim, Im in the middle of building a 7PRC. I see yours has a suppressor. Thats what Im really most curious to know. Thats when little things cause failures. But gravity drop is only the first of many effects that we need to compensate for, in order to shoot precisely at long range. Required fields are marked *. If you would like more information about any of these topics in an easy to understand format, try Robert Rinker's Understanding Firearm Ballistics. You mentioned that length. Great cartridge. Sighting-in a hunting rifle to hit a certain number of inches high at 100 yards (or 100 meters) maximizes the point blank range of the rifle and cartridge and is superior to zeroing at a fixed distance like 200 yards. That sounds really cool. I thought for certain it would have more powder capacity than a 7 Mag so Hornady could advertise the new cartridge beating the old standard. The first number is the value of this cartridge, and the last number is the value of the most powerful round in our bullet database. At the moment of truth, if you arent sure you will make a good shot, dont squeeze the trigger. Im still working on a load. Id love to see it. The 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum was designed in 2002 by Remington Arms Company. (They are the only company that has any 7PRC brass that I know of. PBB will just thread the end in a typical 5/824 pattern and then youll use a direct thread suppressor like a Dead Air Nomad. Well, that would limit most hunting rifles to between 150 and 400-yards. 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Corriolis effects from the earths rotation also needs to be compensated for. Can you tell me which suppressor you are using? The 7mm PRC is a new round designed for long-range shooting and big-game hunting. Let's compare the amount of wind deflection for two different bullet's launched at 3000 fps MV. what speed can you get? First know Im a disabled hunter who is in my early 60s, I have a spinal issue from an accident and just had shoulder surgery, I cant walk far anymore. This setup is for long range target shooting. 2023 Backfire LLC, a limited liability company headquartered in Utah, USA. The Extreme Spread (ES) of our velocity is usually under 10 fps and Standard Deviations (SD) is usually around 3-5 fps. Tell them I sent you. Still havent been able to find brass. An inch is no big deal even if you're shooting squirrels in the head. In our next article we will look at how to calculate and compensate for long range shooting, and the equipment and programs that will do it. A forum community dedicated to all firearm owners and enthusiasts. Obviously Hornady makes dies for the 7 PRC, but I personally am not a fan of their dies. Shot placement, bullet construction, and animal individuality will all dramatically impact the effectiveness of the bullet. Shortening the H&H case to a length of 2.500 inches, and using a 25-degree shoulder, the 7mm Remington Magnum has an overall cartridge length of 3.290 inches. Download Shoot! Im looking for a new elk rifle and am very excited about this new caliber. I think too many hunters see muzzle velocity and assume if its fast, itll work long range, and thats not true at all. The time of flight is dependent on shape (BC) and initial muzzle velocity. do you know the 7mm Blaser Magnum? Every hunter needs to read this and understand the real limitations of their ammunition. Great job on all the information on the 7mm PRC. These are Altitude (basically, Pressure), and Air Temperature. This compares favorably to 150 grain and 180 grain .308 bullets which have sectional densities of .226 and .271 respectively. The 7mm Precision Rifle Cartridge is a long-action centerfire rifle cartridge designed to shoot 180 grain bullets at 2,950 fps. The PowerRank is an estimation of the cartridge power. With that bullet, drop at 1000 would be measured in yards. Im sure people will certainly use the cartridge for many things. Seems like they are trying to reinvent the wheel given that the 7mm STW (strangely missing from this article for comparisons) does everything the 7mm PRC does and more for over 40 years: 180gr in the 3000-3200fps range. At 300 m my Blaser R8 shoots on 2 cm with these bullets. Im a big fan of the channel and look forward to more on the 7mm PRC. 61.6 grains H4831sc. To do load development before this speed up happens will render the load development useless. This is again shooting the 175gr ELD-X bullet out of 24 test barrel with a large magnum CCI primer. Great folks to deal with too. Looking at your H4831sc chart Im a little faster at 62.7grs than what you had at 63grs. Love what youre doing. This round is here to stay, and while the relative recoil or kick is often sighted as negative, it's often over stated, while it does kick the numbers show that the recoil on average is = or less than the average for the 30-06 but is of course more than the 270, and the 30-30. The 7mm Weatherby! The Bigger Question is, whats YOUR maximum? con canna da 50 inch. Will be suppressed at times, but in a effort to save weight on certain hunts will ditch the can(7 TBAC Ultra). If you cant your rifle the same every time, you won't have a problem, but if you change your cant by tipping your scope just five degrees to the right, your point of impact in the standard system would be 16 inches right! Part of that preparation is understanding, in simple terms, the external ballistics of a typical long range shot. .460 Steyr .416 Barrett .408 Cheytac .375 Chetac etc. You might be able to measure with a data meter the speed and direction at your location, but the wind is very likely doing something entirely different at mid-range, or at the target. While the 7mm 168 grain VLD would only need 3100 fps at the muzzle to match that 2000 fps velocity at 1000 yards. Its all highly situational, but it matters. Then our errors are within the accuracy potential of our hunting rounds. Any suggestions? che velocit riesci ad avere? Keep in mind this is an approximation and although it is quite accurate it should never replace first-hand experience of shooting your specific firearm and ammunition to determine the bullet drop and windage at different ranges and conditions. Your results may vary. Since this new cartridge has been announced, Ive talked with my contacts at many of the major rifle manufacturers and have been surprised by how many of them are extremely frustrated with working on PRC chamberings in their rifles. Next, I loaded H1000. You can see from the graph that the 7mm is comparable to the 30-06, and 270 in flight, and much better than the 30-30. She looks like a real keeper to me. Tikka, Browning, and Bergara are conspicuously missing from the list and yet they all chamber for the 6.5 PRC. Last, I shot Accurate Magpro powder with the same 175gr ELD-X and CCI large magnum primer out of a 24 test barrel. If your max is 400-yards and the deer is moving, perhaps stick to 200-yards. (888) 223-3006 I am kind of waiting to find some Hornady brass to work up my official load. Up and down winds can be tough to deal with because of difficulty in reading mirage, or the terrain can be hidden. Hey C3, Aren't Bases for long range higher in the rear as to give better muzzle elevation to scope alignment? 1400 W Henry St Ive left comments but could use some advice. Also, remember that the data in the table above is using averages of multiple loads per cartridge. Most people will like 22, but I like em short! Also, any chance you could add 270wsm to the tables? Thank you. So far, my favorite powder for reloading the 7 PRC is H4831SC using standard large rifle primers. The highest being the 180 grain 7mm. Using this as a reference, let's examine several other factors that can effect our shot placement. Looking at a fierce CT rival with 20 in 7 PRC. I used the same primer, and the same 175gr ELDX bullet. Commissions are earned for links to Brownell's, Amazon, MidwayUSA, GoHunt, OpticsPlanet, Sportsman's Warehouse, and other retailers. This system maximizes the distance in which no "hold over" is necessary. Final load 61.6 grains 1/4moa. The heavy-for-caliber VLD bullet's are the only readily available high BC bullet's that have been documented to ethically perform at long ranges on game animals, and the BC range on those bullet's ranges from 0.550 to 0.685. Do not rely on my anecdotal testing for your rifle. Eliminating the effect of wind by using high BC's and proper compensation techniques is the only solution. I think your numbers might be off. is beginning to assert its trajectory superiority here with a 5-inch advantage over the .270 Win. if you looking at 1000 yards I would be looking at a different rifle , Something more like a 50 BMG , 6.5 to be honest. This is for academic purposes only. In fact, Aaron Davidson, CEO of Gunwerks, jokingly said that the new 7PRC is the 7LRM. Load Swift's 150-grain Scirocco at 3,036 fps delivers outstanding terminal performance. Ive been playing around with Berger 190g Long Range Hybrid Targets. But what are the flattest shooting rifle cartridges? I also have a 264 mag but the 6.5prc will do anything it will do but with a lot less powder. When I first shot the 7 PRC in a lightweight rifle, I was surprised by the stout recoil; however, adding a muzzle brake or a suppressor tames the rifle dramatically. The Hornady 7 PRC is a new long-range hunting and competition cartridge that slides neatly into the gap that exists between the 6.5 PRC and 300 PRC. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. The reason that the bullet deflects, is because its initial flight path or direction is different from the wind vector and resulting bullet attitude. A hunting firearm can only be so heavy, and a smart shooter will only subject himself to a limited amount of recoil. Due to the extremely tight tolerances of these cartridges, Ive seen MANY manufacturers struggle with delivering barrels that spike pressures or have brass that doesnt fit right. A 10 MPH wind will move a bullet about 10-12 feet laterally. Pinsoft Software. Sample Trajectory showing the bullet path crossing the line of sight.Because gravity causes the bullet to drop, the longer a bullet takes to reach its target, the more time gravity will have to pull it towards the earth. Thanks. In the past too much attention was placed on increasing MV, but modern long range shooters realize that increasing the BC increases performance without increasing recoil. Ive been working with some pre-production brass that isnt very good. What is the mounting method, QD or threaded? Little things that you may never have noticed can make a shot fail if you are really pushing the limits. Magnus spin drift will cause a bullet to drift right for a right hand twist barrel, and the amount is proportional to the square of the time of flight. L. B. This load has been optimized in Shoot! Round before it becomes inefficent? Thank you. 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