CINDY: Yep. You see, when we was driving I observed everything. Okay, she was standing there and I was driving down the street and she waved a little bit and so forth and I pulled up there and talked with her. Being authentic creates the space for diversity of thought and means drawing on experiences that fall outside the box. CINDY: Uh huh. Normally, people try avoiding that. Required fields are marked *. He is just so punctual, and he always knows his lines, and hes there to get the job done. Once theyd arrived Robert left his handcuffed victim in the back seat of his vehicle while he loaded his aircraft as per usual; Cindy waited until her captor was distracted, and when she saw her chance she jumped out of the car and ran for her life! He offered me $200 for a blowjob in the car, cause I wouldnt go to his place. Wanted to put some distance between them, in time and space, just in case somebody had seen them together. A metallic green Buick Century. Hudgens: Oh my gosh, Nic is the most professional actor Ive ever worked with and that I probably will ever work with. Laurel Andrews was a reporter for the Anchorage Daily News, Alaska Dispatch News and Alaska Dispatch. It shows just how desolate the area is, these poor women really didnt have a snowballs chance. Lemon Creek Superintendent Dan Carothers called it "the bust of the decade" for Alaska prison officials. FLOTHE: Were the handcuffs tight? Glenn Flothe, AST. Hansen confessed to authorities that he had killed 17. Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. FLOTHE: Where were you going to meet him at Saturday? CINDY: Hey, for a blowjob in the car, hell yeah. And she, uh, cant remember if she wasnt there or she couldnt couldt meet me. Several months later, police with search warrants went through Hansen's home, finding enough evidence to eventually charge him with four murders. What was the most difficult scene for you to shoot and why? Some people dont care to dive into it, but its the reason that I do this. And he was very kind and giving as an actor, as well as John. He had been transferred to the hospital on Wednesday. CINDY: He just drove by. "Good riddance to him.". I always wanted to do dramas. (rustling sound as Flothe shows his gun to Cindy) Did it have that or was I need a cheap laptop, microphones, etc. On his terms. FLOTHE: Did you give him your phone number or did he write it down on something? On the floor instead there was an airplane seat. Now, from reading your report apparently you had a pretty good description of the house that you gave the police. He confessed to sometimes releasing the women in the woods in order to stalk and hunt them before the murders. (Sound of pages turning. Cindy reveals that Hansen flashed some bills at her and that she was entranced by the thought of his money. Why dont we start then with what will be freshest in mind, which is the the cases that are pending now and from what happened in June of last year. Like a station wagon. About four stairs to get into the house. FLOTHE: OK. FLOTHE: Did you give him the room number too? Did he only do a few takes or did he do as many as he felt he needed? Others have never been found. Its important, too, for people to see that it only takes one person to have faith in you, to care about you, to make you feel changed. Hansen owned a bakery in a downtown mini mall and lived across town with his wife and children, who knew nothing of his double life. Her ability to accurately describe every detail of her ordeal was crucial to establishing her credibility as a witness. Was it important for you to give the victims a voice in this film? *Though its not super graphic or bloody, this article does contain a couple of images of the killer posing with hunted game animals. Can you tell me a little about your character and the status of that project? Growing up Robert was scrawny, he had this terrible stutter, and a super bad case of acne; all of this made him the target of bullies everywhere. I was kinda trippin I really thought (inaudible) His health failing, Hansen was moved to the Anchorage Correctional Complex on May 11. It became very accessible to me. CINDY: I talked to him and made an appointment to meet him and I didnt show up. FLOTHE: What did the gun look like? And do what he pleased with her. 10 Underrated Thrillers That Are Destined To Become Cult Classics, 10 Best Movies Trilogies Ranked From 'Spider-Man' to 'The Lord of the Rings', This Spielberg Movie Only Made a $1 Box Office Profit. Whether shed been taken to his house or not, in the end these women (or the known victims at least) wound up in the Alaskan wilderness. In a police interview after Paulson's escape, she told him she got the feeling other people may live in the house. When will it be released? He was really sweet. CINDY: Tons It had never crossed her mind. Im not correct on the times, OK? He was right to worry, state officials later said. What made you want to do it? We must find our commonalities through sharing our experiences, spreading awareness, and caring for one another. The Butcher Baker Minisode. (pause) FLOTHE: And did you pick an individual out that was The cause of death will be determined by the medical examiner but it appears he died of natural causes, she said. OK, that wasnt even back there. Heres a link: https://www.patreon.com/Morbidnmacabre. FLOTHE: And then he contacted you on Saturday. Thats what it takes for teams to bring their best selves to work every day.. CINDY: Number five. And I really, really If there was any chance of me getting away, he wasnt getting away with it. FLOTHE: Now you mentioned this airplane seat. FLOTHE: And he contacts you at where? And he had called me and I slept through it. FLOTHE: OK. And when he pulled up, did you just go get in the car, or did you talk to him "In his mind there were good girls and bad girls.". A mousy, seemingly easy-natured family man, Hansen admitted to killing 17 woman and raping another 30 over a dozen years in the 1970s and 1980s. "On this day we should only remember his many victims and all of their families, and my heart goes out to all of them," said Glenn Flothe, a retired Alaska state trooper who was instrumental in Hansen's 1984 capture. My dream is to purchasing what I need to get that YouTube/patreon off the ground. The one person who really seemed to have believed Cindy and became determined to stop this killer was a state trooper by the name of Glenn Flothe. It just felt (inaudible) and he pulled the gun out and that time he had handcuffs on my hands and I couldnt get the door open. FLOTHE: At this time, so I know what youre talking about, cause I have not been in the house, Cindy He takes Paulson to a hospital and her clothes are kept for a rape Kit. Hansen served time briefly at Lemon Creek Correctional Center in Juneau until authorities found escape plans stashed among his belongings and sent him to Seward, officials said at the time. Cause that was the smallest he had. Ducks and birds. FLOTHE: The same car as on Friday? If Im unsure of something, I promise to tell you, and yall the dates in this case about drove me nuts. FLOTHE: Where did he park the car? Can you tell us how that all came about? FLOTHE: This car that was in the driveway how new or old was this car? CINDY: Uh huh. Ever since I was young, I wanted to be in a role where I could play a prostitute or a drug addict, because its nice to be able to portray someone who is so far from you, which I love. CINDY: OK. Hansen said she had a knife in her purse. And we got to the house and he drug me downstairs to the as soon as you walk in theres a carpet to the right. I said I could meet him at ten or else at eleven. FLOTHE: Were you shown any pictures of him before? He was a natural leftie, but forced to become right handed. He joined the ADN in 2004. Were able to have honest and trusting conversations about how to make BC, and hopefully the industry, a place We must take small steps to make a positive change in the workplace and industry and, right now, its We work to create a more inclusive space because everyone deserves to live and embrace their truths. She'd noticed women's clothes, toys, and dogs wandering around, according to. Robert Hansen confessed to killing 17 women in the 1970s and early 80s and after the murder 30 years ago, led authorities to her body near a lake in the north of Anchorage. Hansen asked to speak with his attorneys and went out into another room. Being able to take those and meditate on them myself and make her memories my own memories put me in the right head space. What was it like working with Nicolas Cage and John Cusack? CINDY: They look the same. It was smooth. CINDY: It was a really dark color. Identifying and finding Hansens weapon cache would prove essential to making the murder case against the Butcher, Baker. [Installment Two]. He had already tortured and raped her, and she was still handcuffed when she ran from his car to flag down passing traffic. Cause this motherfucker wasnt getting away with it. BC is creating the space for more diverse thoughts and experiences and bringing better solutions to our clients as a result, she adds. So its immoral to make snap judgments about people. FLOTHE: Ah. What did you learn from them? When he was arrested for the sexual assaults, Robert had claimed to have been an innocent man, and she believed what hed told her; shed had her suspicions that her husband may have been a cheater who possibly enjoyed the company of an escort every once in a while, but a woman killer? What did you learn about yourself in the process of making this film? Here for the first time are the tape recordings that document that rendezvous. FLOTHE: OK. And hes driving the same car. There were horns. After hed taken a nap, Cindys kidnapper informed her that they were going on a little trip on his plane, but that she shouldnt be alarmed as hed already taken seven other women out to this location. Hudgens: It was definitely the rape scene because we recreated that room to a T. I mean, everything that I was seeing, the emotions that I was feeling, were the exact same things that these young victims had gone through as well, and it was crazy living that, even though its make believe. "He was mild-mannered Bob the Baker, and as I'm looking at him, all of sudden he transformed. And I was supposed to meet him but I didnt show up cause I overslept. He found an outlet for his feelings of sexual rejection and frustration through criminalityfirst via smaller displays of power like kleptomania, then graduating to arson, burning down a school bus garage in his hometown of Pocahontas, Iowa in 1960, a crime for which he served 20 months in prison. (sound of paper being torn off a tablet) I really respect that. And he had cuffed one of my hands, and I was trying to get loose and he pulled out a gun. He takes me up the stairs to the garage, I mean, to the house. Hudgens: It depended on the scene. Donations & Patreon membership will go towards keeping this site running. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. On June 13, 1983, Hansen offered 17-year-old Cindy Paulson $200 to perform oral sex; when she got into the car, he pulled out a gun and drove her to his home in Muldoon. Glenn Flothe, AST. The woman tried to escape and he pulled out a gun, he said. CINDY: Nope. After we get in the garage we gotta go up these stairs. If you do exactly what I tell you and don't give me any problem whatsoever, there's going to be no -- you won't get hurt in any way, shape or form," Hansen told troopers, according to news accounts at the time. Thats why he did it. And he had pulled out his wallet and showed me a whole bunch of money He often found his victims among topless dancers and prostitutes in downtown Anchorage. CINDY: Im positive. And that he had to work and he couldnt do it then. STEPHEN Don't just stick to the Malbec! FLOTHE: Make sure you look through the whole book before you decide. to start my podcast and YouTube channel. She also discussed her fun cameo in Machete Kills and her upcoming films, Gimme Shelter and The Kitchen Sink. We all have the same needs. And, getting to that point, its so powerful, she says. Alaska serial killer Robert Hansen, who killed as many as 21 women, died Thursday at an Anchorage hospital. All Rights Reserved., https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/, Killers found not guilty by reason of insanity. No comments have so far been submitted. * I strive to be as concise as possible when it comes to facts as theres no telling what an article may be used for. Hansen was the subject of a 2013 film titled, 'The Frozen Ground,' which starred Nicolas Cage as an Alaskan State Trooper investigating the slayings, with actor John Cusack portraying Hansen. Construction of the trans-Alaska oil pipeline ignited nightlife in the city blocks surrounding his bakery. Hes got like frog warts on his face. Hansen worked in a supply room at the Lemon Creek prison in Juneau, where in 1990 authorities found an aeronautical chart, a hand-knit winter hat, magazine articles on plastic explosives and correspondence with a Juneau boat broker. CINDY: Um hmm. CINDY: (interrupting) Well, I went over there cause at first I didnt recognize him. FLOTHE: So he takes you to the house. As you know, the only electronic I open is a crappy android. Hansens Den (Alaska State Troopers) They pushed me every day to get reactions out of me on the camera that I wouldnt have done if it wasnt for them taking me to those places. CINDY: I dont think so. It was super fun and really quick. Glenn Flothe, AST. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Were the lights on or off? He was afraid of running into friends, relatives or acquaintances of people who knew his many victims. By the time hed caught up, Cindy had flagged down a passing motorist; this good samaritan drove the teen to a nearby hotel room, and he promptly notified the Alaskan police. Cindy later recounted that Robert had offered her $200 bucks for oral sex, and that hed pulled a gun on her just as soon as she stepped inside his vehicle; the teen was driven back to Roberts home where she was chained to a beam by her throat, raped, and tortured for several hours. FLOTHE: So if youre unsure about something (Cindy coughs) just tell me, all right? In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. Cindy had been with BC for 14 years (more than 30 years to date), managing a region and leading many projects when she felt something was missing. She would, of course, run like hell for her life, but the killer would track her down. In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. FRANK ROTHSCHILD (FR): Alright. FLOTHE: Like a station wagon? FLOTHE: And what color were his boots? It was a red scar FLOTHE: And about what time was that? CINDY: Um hmm He liked to take these women home with him, and once a victim had entered this killers lair she was pretty much doomed; he would take her down to the basement, often to a secret soundproof room where he already had chains rigged up. In the early morning of June 13th 1983, (months before the other bodies were found) Cindy Paulson appeared on the side of the road. FLOTHE: Tapes turned back on. Later the girl stated that she had immediately known that those seven other women had been murdered, and she was very determined not to become number eight! CINDY: The same person. CINDY: It was probably about a 72, cream-colored Datsun, with a kinda station wagon in the back, the kind that you used to It was about a 72 or 73. FLOTHE: When you drove up to the house did you see any other cars there at the time? How do you feel about the final film now that youve seen it? (inaudible). And that, um, I was lucky because usually the other ones stayed a week. On June 13, 1983, Cindy Paulson was kidnapped and raped, her life threatened by Robert Hansen. Okay. And Ill give you one guess as to who fit the bill perfectly! FLOTHE: At what time did he call you on Saturday? The infamous Special Agent John Douglas took a look at the case, and he informed the trooper that his perpetrator would likely have a stutter! When his wife, Darla Marie Henrichsen Hensen, and their children were home (they visited family in Arkansas quite often) its believed that Robert would simply skip taking his victim home altogether. FLOTHE: There is a kind of lightish scar there on your She was a prostitute who was kidnapped and raped before managing to escape, but when she went to the police, Hansen evaded arrest because the lead investigator didn't . CINDY: Uh huh Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. You rarely see mention of them, other than the fact that they existed, and I read through multiple articles before I even spotted Mrs. Hansens first name. There are 30+ professionals named "Cindy Paulson", who use LinkedIn to exchange information, ideas, and opportunities. So the next day, which was Sunday (sniffles), I was on Fourth and Denali and this gentleman had been by and pulled in the parking lot and offered me, and I got in the car voluntarily, I was talking with this man and he offered me $200 for a blowjob in the car. CINDY: A little moustache. But aside from that, he just let me play and take it wherever I wanted. Hansen landed in a federal prison in Pennsylvania but didn't get along with other inmates.He served time in Minnesota before returning to Alaska in May 1988, corrections officials said at the time. Vanessa Hudgens: I was a little bit shaken up that this guy who was well respected in the neighborhood and everyone knew as the family man could have done such atrocious and heinous crimes. CINDY: Uh huh. It was very, very eerie and really tough, but John (Cusack) was great. CINDY: You know, I didnt feel nothing, cause I knew I wasnt gonna live. And then we hear about the same meet up from Cindy Paulsons perspective, documented in her trooper interview with Sgt. It was during this 30 month prison stint that he was diagnosed as bipolar with schizophrenic episodes, and wife number one filed for a divorce. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/. Hudgens: I dont like talking about anything until I sign my contract, which I havent done yet, but it will happen most likely pretty soon. FLOTHE: Youre trying to get out? Only 12 bodies of the 17 women Hansen confessed to killing have been found. Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. This is a very intense film. In order to keep their witness close, the state trooper and his wife befriended the young survivor, then Glenn reached out to the FBI. This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. "When you kill that many women there's a good chance you may have killed some convict's girlfriend," said Bob Spinde, who was in charge of prisoner records. CINDY: On the corner of Fourth and Denali. 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