Seems unlikely. Wit has been hanging around on Roshar for a little while, but hes also taken time for jaunts elsewhere. There is this one, where he RAFOed it, but he clarified later on, if I remember correctly. But it doesn't make sense to me. Knowing how loyalDemouxis, he wouldn't just leave Aslydin behind like that. Demoux and his men then charged the incoming koloss forces with Elend, fighting with the power and determination of an army of Allomancers ablaze with atium. He When Kelsier came to inspect the caves it was Demoux who led him around. But why would he choose demoux to be a worldhopper? Also, I haven't read Row yet so please no spoilers for that one :D. Worldhoppers employ various means to become functionally immortal. According to Brandon, Felt has changed his allegiance several times. Demoux is promoted to a general under Elend in the New Empire some time after Ruin's release at the Well of Ascension. I think there's a WoB saying that Demoux is a 17th because of his wife (the terris one in the end of HoA), so the question would rather be: how his wife became a member of the 17th? So no idea. The fact that Brandon even highlighted the fact that the ethnicity of the name is off suggests that it's probably offworld, with -din suggesting Rohsar. Not every character needs to have special abilities to be special. Carrying on with that train of thoughts, every worldhopper is also apparently ageless, and we know that massive investiture grants it. If there is concrete WoB I'd like to see it. It drains its victims of color, leaving them grey. Yep, (most of) the Heralds are worldhoppers. People who are getting between planets either are individuals with no physical form as it's currently basically just the Shards, right, or are getting there through Shadesmar, basically by walking or riding or something like that. Demoux and his troops arrive at the Pits of Hathsin where the Terris survivors have settled. Wanaka Office In The Hero of Ages, Demouxgets together with a woman named Aslydin. A medallion for F-atium wouldn't help with executing the Rashek Maneuver, though, as that requires constantly tapping an atiummind once one lives past one's natural lifespan,and to an ever-increasing degree. Thank you :). Mare | He is native to Scadrial, but hes been around for a while, and his motives are up in the air. And I just had to wonder, what Does anyone else think her name sounds Terris, and that she could be the mysterious Terris worldhopper that we think is on Nalthis? Known Worldhoppers in Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere Fan art by Chris Lough[1], There are ramifications beyond leaving one's world behind when one Worldhops to other worlds (i.e., physical ailment, aging, time travel lag, etc.).[14]. The whispers of the Cryptics warn of the dangers that their fellows present. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Well after some digging, I can find nothing. For all we know, this could be only years following the re-structuring of Scadrial and the rise of Sazed as Harmony. Powers/Skills Here's the topic where Felt the Worldhopper of House Venture was discovered (or the possible worldhopper, that is). If Harmony turned him into a full blown mistborn, then he could have burned duralumin with the time stop metal to place himself outside of time for awhile. He would have to travel from Sel, which isn't avery safe place to enter Shadesmar. PO Box 91 Baon joined The Seventeenth Shard sometime after the events of White Sand. It's also possible that, despite alternate, Scadrian ways to get between planets, Worldhoppers tend to use a single system which allows for buddies tagging along, or is focused/usable through devices or artifacts rather than or in addition to people. Hoid is such a master. So to become a worldhopper one need a lot of investiture, much more than what is normally available. Demoux and his soldiers maintained law and order and essentially took command, though he showed a respect for the Terris elders; he became romantically involved with Aslydin, the daughter of one of the elders, who fell in love with him for his honor and respectability. Knowing how loyal Demoux is, he Yes, with an asterisk. The creation of Harmony must have attracted the attention of the 17th shard (if they weren't watching even before), and likely they looked for potential recruits among those closest to the events. At the moment, only a small number of people know that Worldhopping is possible. Dockson, Teft, Siri, and many others; they're all still compelling without needing magic to make them that way. I could imagine using such a "super-Aon" to worldhop, though it can't be easy--you'd need a knowledge of cosmic layout that you'd be hard-pressed to gain without radio telescopes. Some Worldhoppers just want to be immigrants. The issue is, can just anyone survive this process? Perhaps like so many things in the Cosmere, using the Shardpools in this way is more about intent, rather than physical limitation. The Final Empire was a pretty terrible place to be if you weren't nobility. Out of curiosity, and feel free to answer this however to avoid spoilers, the ones you mention Venvious, who are they? They seem to see themselves as a policing force, attempting to keep some kind of balance and observing the actions that are happening across the cosmere. There are likely others out there that traverse the worlds beyond their home. Do worldhoppers take time to adjust to the different gravity of a new world? When he ventures into the mists for the first time, he is stricken down by them, becoming one of the mistfallen. It would definitely shut down a current thread in Mistborn, but oh well. Elend Venture | Or there was an unforeseen consequence for Atium-dragging like was done in the final battle in HoA. Mistborn Series I can actually understand why people think Jasnah may be a worldhopper, but I think that if she is, she will be one in the future, if at all. I mean, even when Hoid is getting between planets it's taking him weeks or months, he's not jumping. Is she connected to his reasons for becoming a member of the Seventeenth Shard? If you imagine a lobster talking, it probably has a British accent. WebHopper is the main antagonist of Disney/Pixar's 1998 film A Bug's Life. I just read Elantris and I must say I find it really weird that in the interlude grump, who I'm assuming is galladon, isn't described as glowing as he should be as an elantrian. Ruthless and violent, but also cunning, Hopper thinks nothing of killing ants, whom he considers lower than dirt, and his manner of speaking to Princess Atta is reminiscent of an abusive boyfriend mocking his terrified girlfriend. Also, the Oathgates also seem to operate by traversing the Cognitive Realm, but just how this works remains a mystery. Kelsier | Theres really nowhere else we can start, is there? Is it possible he had gone off Scadrial before the ending of TFE? WebUrgently hiring. Chaotic Good His babsk, Iyatil, is even more mysterious. I hadn't considered that his wife could be from the 17th shard. Some of them are not aging and others are just aging really slowly. Ok sorry in advance for maybe asking a stupid question but I always thought that atium is for seeing into the future and not for making myself live longer (gold is for that). Can we then take that to mean that they somehow became functionally immortal? Finding Hoid However, he is far too crafty to make it that easy to catch him. Evil Librarian, Just Some Guyn From Silverlight. They came from Ashyn, another world in the Rosharan system, before taking up their eternal struggle He first appeared on Roshar inWords of Radiance, when he was attempting to sketch the men of Bridge Four, and his notes appear on several of the maps and illustrations inOathbringerincluding the chart of wines and the map of Shadesmar. Offices: I wonder if we're ever gunna see any misting powers or aonDor on Roshar. -M-NUva. Felt is also on Roshar, so maybe they left at a similar time. Thinker If you can help us with this wiki please sign up and help us! In theory; getting to Sel is really tough.[17]. Some individuals know that the dangers of ideas are real in the Cognitive Realm. If you get too close to large amounts of matter or large amounts of Investiture, you will have time dilation. Nazh is from Threnody originally, the world featured inShadows For Silence in the Forests of Hell. Is it said anywhere that Worldhopping has to be tied to the particular magic system of their world? How any of them found their way off their respective worlds is as yet unknown, but its possible Demoux was recruited by his partner, Aslydin. Also how in the heck would he access shadesmar being just a seer? In Way of Kings there is a short side chapter in Purelake where I think it was either three or four world hoppers appeared and talked with a fisherman. So Brandon has confirmed that Demoux's partner from The Hero of Ages, Aslydin, is a worldhopper and a member of the 17th shard, and that her name's ethnicity "should strike us." Q: Obviously the world covers different planets, but most people on individual planets don't know about the other planets. Baon wondered if there I should add that it is suspected that Scadrian Worldhopping might not have anything to do with Allomancy at all, or at least that all Allomancers has access to it, independent of their own ability. In The Hero of Ages, Demoux gets together with a woman named Aslydin. I like the theory about atium/bronze (with a rigged up method of powering it in place of actual atium?) Along with Khriss, he appears to be more concerned with gathering knowledge than furthering any specific agenda, as most of the other worldhoppers are. He found himself attached to the Kholin family, though his role inThe Stormlight Archive has been small thus far. Shallan Davar | He is, after all, the infamous Vasher fromWarbreaker. Demox could have gotten that, or even had some left over. During his ascension, Rashek realized that a person with both Allomancy and Hoid, in his letter inThe Way of Kings, notes that its probably good for them that they dont know where to find him. For very obvious reasons, nobody knows for sure who the kandra is, though several fan theories have floated around, including Taravangians bodyguard Mrall and Rial from Bridge Thirteen. That's gonna be Galladon. and then there are the three guys that were looking for hoid in the way of kings (galladon, demoux, and someone we don't know). N/A Roman religious beliefs changed slowly over time. Naturally, they were making references to the fickle hearts of men in times of transition and stress. Origin Until then I think it will stay as an e-book. Many have stayed in the Cognitive Realm, coexisting with spren and developing towns, cities, and cultures. Draw an animated lobster and I bet WebSo Brandon has confirmed that Demoux's partner from The Hero of Ages, Aslydin, is a worldhopper and a member of the 17th shard, and that her name's ethnicity "should That is everything we know. You're my favourite author, and I have a million things I want to ask you, but since I'm not the only one asking questions, I'll ask the ones most important to me. This is an interesting idea to me. Through research and help from friends I have learned that almost all world hoppers are from other cosmere books. They just wanted to get off-world.[1]. Something to keep in mind ), Lets head away from Nalthis now. Marasi Colms | I always thought that since Demoux was already an Atium misting, he was halfway to Lord Ruler style immortality through Atium compounding. In a letter inThe Way of Kings, Wit mentions that he has a grudge against Rayse/Odium, and that certainly plays into why hes helping out our protagonists. They came from Ashyn, another world in the Rosharan system, before taking up their eternal struggle against Odium and the Fused. There is at least one person from each world that can world hop so that leads me to believe that it is possible with each magic system. Drew McCaffreylives in Fort Collins, CO, where hes spoiled by all the amazing craft beer. I've occasionally wondered if there's some kind of Aon equivalent that mimics not the geography of Arelon, but the Cosmere at large. Now here's the distinction. Sylphrena | What am I missing? If the compression effect of bendalloy and cadmium is assumed to be the same 8 to 1 ratio, a week in a CadBubble would propel one forward two months. Why should we think that similar type characters wouldn't be within the 17th? The most prominent of them is Mraize,the man Shallan has been most in contact with. If he WebMore blocks means more characters, and there are certainly enough of those in the Cosmere. A community to discuss the fantasy series The Stormlight Archive by Brandon Sanderson, along with other Cosmere-related works. This may mean that Kell could permanently, via compounding, give Spook Feruchemical Atium. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Aslydin sounds pretty terris to me. How and why, we do not know, but the mere fact that Demoux shows up intWoK proves there possibly is a way for him to get there without burning Atium. When the kandra Oh I hadn't thought of that, he has also said we've seen Rosharan worldhoppers before without knowing it so that's possible. They move and act, bound by their natures and intents. I am quite certain that WoB states that Atium has nothing to do with it. Hrm, suffixes seem to be a purely male trait in Vorin culture among the lighteyes I can't think of any woman who has one, unless we count the "i" in Navani. 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And Iyatil and Demoux and Sandersons published Cosmere books contain highly visible worldhoppers like the Vessels, Hoid, and Khrissalla, but they also contain Q. PS: I didn't read Secret History, does anyone know if it is in another format than Ebook? Aside from Awakening a sword to "Bring me to other worlds", it's hard to imagine using the manipulation of Spiritual aspects to cross vast distances of space. Given Harmony's mention of Adonalsium, my current theory is that he is, somehow, involved with however Demoux got involved with the 17th Shard. I will give you hints as you read the books. Thanks a lot for doing this, Brandon. On the other hand, it is fascinating to converse with the spren. Wanaka, 9305 Community Software by Invision Power Services, Inc. The name doesn't sound Terris to me at all. Chris King (Miyabi) Right, the one from a future book. A. Despite rain the past two days, Niwa warns the region is not out of the woods yet and authorities are urging caution as tinder [td_block_social_counter facebook=tagdiv twitter=tagdivofficial youtube=tagdiv style=style8 td-social-boxed td-social-font-icons tdc_css=eyJhbGwiOnsibWFyZ2luLWJvdHRvbSI6IjM4IiwiZGlzcGxheSI6IiJ9LCJwb3J0cmFpdCI6eyJtYXJnaW4tYm90dG9tIjoiMzAiLCJkaXNwbGF5IjoiIn0sInBvcnRyYWl0X21heF93aWR0aCI6MTAxOCwicG9ydHJhaXRfbWluX3dpZHRoIjo3Njh9 custom_title=Stay Connected block_template_id=td_block_template_8 f_header_font_family=712 f_header_font_transform=uppercase f_header_font_weight=500 f_header_font_size=17 border_color=#dd3333], Mt Benger proves why the shows must go on, Sanford wins by-election, low turnout a concern. The ardent who plays strange games, speaks in strange idioms, and reminisces about strange voices in his head. Knowing how loyal Demoux is, he https://wob.coppermind.net/adv_search/?tags=demoux. In truth, Kelsier had just guided Demoux's sword with Allomantic Pushes and Pulls. I have been reading through the cosmere books and in each one there is at least one world hopper, [There are around five in words of Radiance]. Roshar is of itself particularly dangerous, for the spren there are far more powerful than their diminished counterparts in the Physical Realm. This article looks like it needs to be 20% cooler with at least an image. And he's a more central character than Demoux. There is a word of Brandon that indicates that Nicrosil works in a similar manner to copper: something distinct (memory/investiture) is removed from the individual and is later restored. Someone: It's a space station? There's time dilation in the Cosmere: Is all the worlds in the Cosmere on a linear timeline? Family 2. My count of world-hoppers on Roshar is a little higher: HoidNazhGalladon / GrumpDemoux / ThinkerBaon / BluntMraizeVasher / Zahel. Demoux Felt is a worldhopper, and has been a member of various groups over the years. Demoux was named for a personal friend of Brandon Sanderson's, Micah DeMoux, who also took the photographs of Brandon for the book jackets. Adolin Kholin | First met inOathbringer, Highmarshal Azure was in charge of the defense of Kholinar as the Fused and their singer minions attacked Alethkar. Worldhoppers' time is going to pass normally unless they can stay near large collections of Investiture. Wyndle. Here he demonstrated a sharp contrast to Yeden's impulsive nature by being patient and prudent. At the moment, it's a cameo on par with Hoid; a minor character popping up where he doesn't belong. There could be any number of caches that went undiscovered prior to Harmony. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Seriously, I don't know. A: That's not as far off as people laughing think that it is. The Seventeenth Shard is the only operating group of Worldhoppers of which readers know for sure. Community Software by Invision Power Services, Inc. On 27/04/2018 at 8:46 PM, king of nowhere said. Amongst the first recruits of Kelsier's rebellion, Ham quickly promotes him to the rank of captain after he (Ham) assumes leadership in light of Kelsier's absence. Maybe he doesn't have any powers on Roshar? Yeah, those were obvious ones. So, while Wit has important business to be about on Roshar, he has priorities elsewhere, too. Sorry, title should say "Theories" not "Stories.". Jasnah Kholin | And there is still some Atium. Worldhopper before or after she met Demoux? The unassuming lighthouse keeper and fortune teller in Shadesmar gave himself away as a worldhopper several times over inOathbringer. Yep, (most of) the Heralds are worldhoppers. InThe Stormlight Archive, he appears to be working hard against Odium. Attributes and AbilitiesEdit. 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